{"id":417,"date":"2008-08-21T16:46:29","date_gmt":"2008-08-21T13:46:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.risaleforum.net\/blog\/?p=417"},"modified":"2008-08-21T16:47:18","modified_gmt":"2008-08-21T13:47:18","slug":"ecel-birdir-degismez","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/sohbetlerimiz\/ecel-birdir-degismez.html","title":{"rendered":"Ecel Birdir De\u011fi\u015fmez"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; \u015fimdi<br \/>\n[16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; on\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc s\u00f6zde \u015f\u00fc kelam ge\u00e7er<br \/>\n[16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; ecel birdir degi\u015fmez<br \/>\n[16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; ve devamla<br \/>\n[16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; o maktul herhelde ecel geldi\u011finden daha ziyade kalmayacakt\u0131<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; bu k\u0131s\u0131sm<br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131m\u0131<br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; ama birde kader risalesinde \u015f\u00fc kelam ge\u00e7iyor<br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; t\u00fcfek atmasayd\u0131 \u00f6lmesi bizce me\u00e7hul<br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; bu k\u0131sm\u0131yla nas\u0131l bagda\u015f\u0131r<br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; bu kelamlar<br \/>\n[16:28] &lt;ikra&gt; buyrun<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ForumRisale&gt; burada anla\u015f\u0131lmayan ne ?<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; yaw birinde<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; diyor<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; ecel bridir degi\u015fmez<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; yani yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; ama t\u00fcfek atmasada<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; \u00f6lecek<br \/>\n[16:29] &lt;ikra&gt; bu iki kelam<br \/>\n[16:30] &lt;ikra&gt; nas\u0131l bagda\u015ft\u0131racag\u0131z<br \/>\n[16:30] &lt;ikra&gt; yani<br \/>\n[16:30] &lt;ikra&gt; burda avam i\u00e7inmi ge\u00e7iyor<br \/>\n[16:30] &lt;ikra&gt; ecel birdir degi\u015fmez<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;cafer&gt; r.nuru genel olarak ele al\u0131rsak<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;cafer&gt; daha istikametli anlar\u0131z<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;ikra&gt; yani<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;ikra&gt; nurda bir yerde bir kelem<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;ikra&gt; \u015fua<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;ikra&gt; mektubatta<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;ikra&gt; s\u00f6zdede \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;ikra&gt; \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;cafer&gt; ve muhtelif yerleri bir araya do\u011fru \u015fekilde getirmemiz gerekir<br \/>\n[16:31] &lt;cafer&gt; ustad\u0131m\u0131z bir ba\u015fka yerde \u015funu der<br \/>\n[16:32] &lt;cafer&gt; ecel ikidir<br \/>\n[16:32] &lt;ikra&gt; ya ya<br \/>\n[16:32] &lt;cafer&gt; biri ecel i kati<br \/>\n[16:32] &lt;cafer&gt; di\u011feri ecel i muallak<br \/>\n[16:32] &lt;cafer&gt; ecel i muallak sebebler taht\u0131nda de\u011fi\u015febilir<br \/>\n[16:32] &lt;cafer&gt; ama ecel i kat i de\u011fi\u015fmez<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; biz ecel i kati inin de\u011fi\u015fti\u011fini m\u00fc\u015fahede edebilirz ama<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;ikra&gt; yani t\u00fcfek etmasayd\u0131 \u00f6lmesi bizce me\u00e7hul<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; ecel i kat i i\u00e7in hukum beyan edemeyiz<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; evt<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;ikra&gt; ehl-i s\u00fcnnet itikat\u0131n\u0131m\u0131 ifade eder<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; evt<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; biz kimsenin ecel i kat isini bilemeyiz<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; gaybidir<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;cafer&gt; Allah bilir<br \/>\n[16:33] &lt;ikra&gt; evet<br \/>\n[16:34] &lt;cafer&gt; mesele tmm m\u0131d\u0131r<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; \u015fimdi [16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; on\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc s\u00f6zde \u015f\u00fc kelam ge\u00e7er [16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; ecel birdir degi\u015fmez [16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; ve devamla [16:27] &lt;ikra&gt; o maktul herhelde ecel geldi\u011finden daha ziyade kalmayacakt\u0131<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":100000,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[63],"tags":[68,66,67],"class_list":["post-417","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sohbetlerimiz","tag-degismez","tag-ecel","tag-kader"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/417","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/100000"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=417"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/417\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=417"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=417"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/risaleforum.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=417"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}